Thomas Kinsella is the COO and co-founder of Tines — a no-code security automation platform that frees teams from manual work so they can focus on higher-value strategic work. 

In today’s episode, Thomas and Jack explore what it's like to transition from a security practitioner to a startup founder and how tools like Tines and Panther can be used to transform the way security teams operate. 

Topics discussed:

• What Tines does (and what the name means). 

• Reflecting on the stresses of dealing with major incidents while Thomas worked as a security practitioner at organizations like eBay and Docusign. 

• Why frustration with the automation platforms available led Thomas and his co-founder to quitting their jobs to build the solution they wish they had. 

• The risk of building — instead of buying security tools. 

• The Tines use cases that Thomas finds the most surprising. 

• How automation platforms and threat detection platforms should work together. 

• What’s next for Tines as a company and how they help security members get the most out of their platform. 

• 3 pieces of advice for any security operator working at scale.